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DKoK Rifle prototype in work by ElysianTrooper DKoK Rifle prototype in work by ElysianTrooper
Experimenting with a Lasgun from DKoK, to get experience in measures, how to do etc...is not aweapon fur use in duty of the squad, only to show in table displays.
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SenInt Featured By Owner May 6, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Just wondering now...
How good are designing IG gear 'n stuff?
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ElysianTrooper Featured By Owner May 6, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
How good..I´m not sure that I´m understood your question right?
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SenInt Featured By Owner May 6, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Let me put it more simple then...

I have this idea of new IG regiment.
It's theme is Finnish army during Winter war in 1939-1940.
So I'm wondering, how would YOU imagine their appearence, equipment, lasguns etc. look like in WH40k universe?
Just curious...
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ElysianTrooper Featured By Owner May 6, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
I think would be a thing in the direction valhallan army, but if I had to do it, I would ad a lightly armour and more modern looking weapons, I´m not afriend of the old styled armies.
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SenInt Featured By Owner May 6, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Maybe.
Although the Valhallan army looks more like the opposite side, Red army of Soviet, not to mention the tactics too.
(more about Winter war you can find from Wikipedia...)
Finnish forces were low on supplies, but they managed to stubbornly defend against massive human waves. Not to mention about the tanks the enemy sent with the waves too.
Maybe a little modified look of Valhallan, veterans with snow camos, Rough riders on skis (I've custom build 5 of them), guerilla fighters, etc.
Valhallan atmostphere sounds like frozen desert (or polar pole like), there where I would describe planet "Tuonela" as frozen forest planet with short summers and long dark winters.
What pattern of lasgun would fit for these short distance forest fights?
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ElysianTrooper Featured By Owner May 6, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Maybe the steel legion folding stock rifles...is partly wood used, gives a older touch...
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SenInt Featured By Owner May 6, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Hmmm... or Steel legion pattern lasgun with wooden stock...? How short was it again?
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ElysianTrooper Featured By Owner May 6, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
I think you ave found it in my gallery, right?
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DerVulf Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
The Death Korp, my favorite IG regiment.... This does it proud.
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ElysianTrooper Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
;-)
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OtakuBouzu Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Professional General Artist
Looked like a BAR rifle get... pimped by mechanicus.

DKoK? Death Korps of Kried?
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ElysianTrooper Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Yes Death Korps of Krieg....and yes the weapon may be a design mixup between Garand/BAR/M14/MAS or something else...;-)
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OtakuBouzu Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Professional General Artist
There is BAR and MAS... but there is something else...

[link]

:-O

Oh my.
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ElysianTrooper Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Hehe..yes, you are right..its always funny to search for the things , where designers get there ideas...;-)
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OtakuBouzu Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Professional General Artist
brainstorming and research always yield something unexpected, huh?
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ElysianTrooper Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Right, all day...;-)
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Nitocolus Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
As usual, I want.
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ElysianTrooper Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Hehe...
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Thrownik Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
Where is bayonet!!! :D
How you can perform bayonet charge without bayonet?
no bayonet charges, no DKoK


BTW: I have question, when new IG troops are created (on planet which doesn't have them earlier), who train troops? Can officers from other regiments?
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ElysianTrooper Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Sure there would be a bayonet later, but first the weapon then the bayonet...but I have testet the size adding a old bayonet for a other weapon on a pic...

Your question is a very interesting point, most of the training they get in there own PDF (planetar defense forces) but often they are not equipped with lasweapons...I think there would be special advisors doin the special thinks to that troops, but that is only the idea in my mind not found in references..
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Thrownik Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013
I'm asking becouse I'm writing fluff for one of my IG regiments from own system. I want make them as heavy infantry (in armours like carapace but lokking more like old armour) trained by officers from DKoK and Mordian IG :D
and yes, they'll be not equiped with lasguns but with a bit better bolt-action riffles (I <3 them)
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ElysianTrooper Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
I think there is all possible in that universe ;-) In the last novel from the ghost´s they use bolt action rifles again as snipers...;-)
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Thrownik Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013
maybe lasguns have super accuracy, but oldstyle weapons rule :D
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ElysianTrooper Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Thats a thing of personal taste I mean...but its the nice part in that hobby, there is something for everyone..;-)
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Thrownik Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013
yeah, but i think that there is more MOAR then 1000 space marines chapters :D
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Packmaster Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Sicher dass das Todeskorps Holz benutzt? Steht eigentlich im krassen Gegensatz zu Mentalität und Effizienzgedanken von Krieg: es wirdn ur verwendet, was praktisch ewig haltbar ist, einfach austauschbar und widerstandsfähig. Und Holz ist keine auf Krieg verfügbare Ressource.
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ElysianTrooper Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Sicher bin ich bei gar nichts, da sich alles was man findet bei GW irgendwann wiederspricht ;-)
Ich finde es dem WKI look passender...es kann ja synthetisches Holz sein...grins...es wird auf jeden Fall noch ziemlich dunkel gebeizt und abgenutzt. Holz hätte ich aber aus praktischen Gründen auf jeden Fall verwendet weil es arbeitstechnisch und Kostenmäßig in dem Teil das günstigste ist(Form herausarbeiten zum Beispiel).
Ist ja wie gesagt der Prototy, man kann ja sann mal noch eine bauen wo die Schulterstütze grau lackiert ist..dann entscheidet rein der coolnessfaktor..;-)
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AntonMoscowsky Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Vostroyan?
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ElysianTrooper Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
No, DKoK, Lucius pattern
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Voltis-Elusive Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
Sweet! Add a place to grip and a slot to fix a bayonet and this weapon will be a worthy addition to His glorious army!
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ElysianTrooper Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
There still missing the ripped (maybe cooling) section at the barrel, handguard carrier/handguard, upper cover of the housing, targeting items, fixing for the carrying strap, connection carrier between barrel and the second tube, etc..its some work to do at that piece....
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sMadman Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
das ding sieht ja mal richtig geil aus
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ElysianTrooper Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Danke..;-)
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GrimSheeper Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
DkoK?
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ElysianTrooper Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Gemeint ist Death Korps of Krieg, die erste Weltkriegs angehauchte Armee von Warhammer
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GrimSheeper Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
Ach die Schützengrabenjungs. Ich hab nur mit der Abkürzung nichts anfangen können.
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ElysianTrooper Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Nervt immer die lange Bezeichnung zu schreiben..;-)
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GrimSheeper Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013
Elendes Todeskorps mit ihrem langen Namen, haltet euch an die T'au, drei Buchstaben reichen denen.
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ElysianTrooper Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Its aber ein Apostrophe dazwischen...kann auch nicht jeder..grins..
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GrimSheeper Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013
Na gut, das macht es dann schon wieder unnötig Kompliziert, das stimmt.
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FoxySnowleo Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
Mhm, zu erst wollte ich sagen, dass der Unterlauf irgendwie sehr weit vom Lauf entfernt ist, aber die Maße sehen richtig aus, verglichen mit der Miniatur (Nicht dass ich das wirklich bezweifelt hätte). Schaut aber sehr interessant aus, wieder beeindruckend, was du da gemacht hast!
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ElysianTrooper Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Nee, dar Abstand haut schon hin, laß mal das Kühlsegment drauf sein und der Handschutz dann sieht das ganz anders aus, vorne kommt auch noch ein Verbinder dazwischen...;-)
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Chaplain-Seraphi Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
Uuuuuu now ya doin' DKoK? Extremely coooool!
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ElysianTrooper Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Only the weapon...only the weapon;-)
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Chaplain-Seraphi Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013
oeh snap :P
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blooddragon62 Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
i smell a new costume coming. pretty cool so far.
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ElysianTrooper Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
No, definitely not, its only a thing for experience and as showweapon, on the GD in cologne for example...
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TotenPF Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
In which period of the year is the german GD?
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ElysianTrooper Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
its normaly around the 8-12 August...
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TotenPF Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
Worst month ever for a costume gathering
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